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Or Ardmore, more specifically. The dreamer/psychologist/possible madman's legendary 100-year-old book, which he didn't publish during his lifetime and failed to tell his ancestors what to do with after his death, is biblical for Jungians. In a New York Times Magazine piece published this Sunday, one such Jungian says, 'I want to be transformed by it. That's all there is.' But until this Oct. 7 (for a hefty fee of about $100), no one thought it'd ever be published because of Jung's extremely protective family. That is, until Sonu Shamdasani, general editor of the Ardmore-based Philemon Foundation, labored for three years to convince the family to publish it. Here's a snippet from the NY Times piece about the foundation's director Stephen Martin's first time meeting with the Jungs:
Anytime someone did ask to see the Red Book, family members said, without hesitation and sometimes without decorum, no. The book was private, they asserted, an intensely personal work. In 1989, an American analyst named Stephen Martin, who was then the editor of a Jungian journal and now directs a Jungian nonprofit foundation, visited Jung's son (his other four children were daughters) and inquired about the Red Book. The question was met with a vehemence that surprised him. 'Franz Jung, an otherwise genial and gracious man, reacted sharply, nearly with anger,' Martin later wrote in his foundation's newsletter, saying 'in no uncertain terms' that Martin could not 'see the Red Book, nor could he ever imagine that it would be published.'
Pretty impressive, then, that it was. Read the rest of the piece here.
Is every one absolutely certain that Jung did all of the artwork? Mr. Shamdasani, the Jung family? Has anyone found any other art other work that is known to be Jung's?
Was he a secret self-taught artist?
Neither friend nor patients,nor family knew of artistic abilities?
Richard. Happy trolling. You should check out Shamdasani's "Cult Fictions." Devastating.
Eliz may have a scholarly foundation for her position, but it is clear from her comments that she has no experiential foundation for her position. Only after my own nervous breakdown, visionary experiences, and brush with psychosis at mid-life did I discover Jung's work. It was clear to me that he'd had similar profoundly moving experiences, and being of an inquiring scholarly mind, formed theories to make sense of it all. All I'm saying is you're really not qualified to judge if you haven't lived it. The burden of repeatible EXPERiment lies in our own EXPERience of the unconscious (hence the etymology).
It is true, however, that humans have a propensity to idolize figures such as Jung. But no one is qualified to insinuate this was Jung's self-promoting intent, it may be simply the un-individuated idolater that needs an idol that puts Jung on a pedistal.
Sweet Dreams.
Wow. He _was_ pretty spooky...communicating with his ancestors.
I've had to conclude Jung essentially came up with his own neo-pagan religion. Its particularly characteristic feature is that it makes no pretense of external truth, neither is it necessarily about mental wellness, but is rather a "deification" of the self and the phantasmagoria one might encounter in the inner life and dreams, often borrowing the language of ancient pagan religions. Jung's history reveals that this was consciously a reaction against Judeo-Christianity, especially the most orthodox forms, which he detested, Judaism and Catholicism. The Red Book seems to be basically the sacred scripture of Jung's cult of himself, a messiah figure. His idea and method was to help others to likewise formulate a cult of themself. He was a troubled person who seemed to veer toward madness at certain times, a creative genius, severely ethically challenged, able to present himself and his ideas in an attractive and polished way.
"Eliz" posted some statements on 9-21-2009 at 8:18 p.m. which might prove to be difficult to substantiate. Jung's own neo-pagan religion? Eliz implies that it is illegitimate because it makes no pretense of external truth. Is she speaking of scientifically verifiable, repeatable, measurable peer-reviewed truth, as applied to other more mainstream religions? That is a straw-man argument, set up to be knocked down with her dismissal of his work as a cult of self, the product of a creative genius madman. This from someone who is highly unlikely to have read Jung's Red Book. She would do well to watch out for the next attractive, polished creative genius madman to come along, that attractive, polished creative genius madman might try to sell her a war.
You are an idiot. You know nothing about Jung or his theories. I don't understand half of what you are saying because it's crazy. Jung gives us a way to find our true self, our true blueprint, and become all that we were meant to become - and if you understood any of this theories you would know that. He was not against the Jews ... far from it. Most of his closest associates at the time were Jewish. This was a man who had the guts to understand and confront the deepest part of his psyche, and come out on the other side transformed by it. That's what we all should strive to do. The Red Book is the Holy Grail, for by facing our darkest and deepest parts of our shadow (unconscious) we will truly find God. You, sadly, have never done that - or have the capacity to do that. Shame on you for trashing something you know absolutely nothing about. As i said - you're an idiot.
If you look at the article you will see that getting the Red Book published was nothing to do with Steve Martin but with Shamdasani of London. As the quote above shows Martin got nothing but a "no" from the Jung family. It was Shamdasani, the scholar, that did the work on this and persuaded them to let it come out.
I have read much about Jung's ideas about the Anima and Animus. It is, in this light, that I find the animosity that greets the Red Book quite understandable. It affirms the unmeasurable concept that some ideas (i.e. forms without substance) have the power to stir the depths of the unconscious psyche. Such words I read here "war" "shame" "detested" etc. But what really takes the cake "severely ethically challenged" - a euphamism of sorts? Obfuscation notwithstanding, he got to someone i.e. got his or her "goat." It amazes me how the ideas of a man who died in the early 1960s continue to animate friends and foes in another time. Thank you so very much!
Eliz has a firm scholarly foundation for her position. As I argued in my two books on Jung, The Jung Cult: Origins of a Charismatic Movement (Princeton University Press, 1994), and The Aryan Christ: The Secret Life of Carl Jung (Random House, 1997), from about 1914 Jung is more appropriately understood from the perspective of the history and sociology of religion as a charismatic prophet who was compelled by his personal spiritual visions (not psychosis) to reframe psychoanalysis into a cult of initiation (Jungian analysis) and rebirth (individuation) by basing it on the model of the Hellenistic (Aryan) mystery cults of pagan antiquity. I was gratified to learn from The NY Times Magazine article of 20 Sept. that fear of my "specter" influenced the Jung family to allow the editing and publishing of Jung's vatic Red Book. The article makes clear that to this day many Jungs and Jungians do not want this book made public. Why? I suspect it is because it will provide compelling evidence in support of the claims I made in my books.
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Once upon a hippy dippy shit time, I dropped into a.k.a. music regularly just to pick up a copy of Arthur Magazine. It wasn't that they were doing amazing journalism; but they did turn me on to new bands regularly, and were just fascinating in the fact that they were so fringe and weird, and yet still survived making a print product. Unfortunately, they stopped surviving in that incarnation ' and appear to have went completely online. The staff (which is mostly just editor Jay Babcock) relocated from L.A. to New York City, too. The upside of all this? They're holding events. One of which is in Philly.
It's a workshop on making terrariums hosted by our very own fanciful plants geek Lord Whimsy, and will also feature a reading about "the wonders of terrariums," an exploration of various containers and plants, and a visit from Babcock. It goes down on Sun., Sept. 13 at 3 p.m. at 2037 Frankford Ave., for $10-$12. You can register in advance by e-mailing editor@arthurmag.com.
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