Drew Lazor's Ill-Advised Rant Factory
If you don't know Nutella is bad for you and your kids, then you are a total idiot and a bad parent.
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In or around December 2010, Ms. Hohenberg learned through friends what ingredient were in the Nutella that she was feeding her family. She was shocked to learn that Nutella was in fact not a "healthy" "nutritious" food but instead was the next best thing to a candy bar, and that Nutella contains dangerous levels of saturated fat.She had to have friends explain to her that CHOCOLATE HAZELNUT SPREAD COMPOSED OF MORE THAN HALF PROCESSED SUGAR was not nutritious. I feel so sorry for your friends.
Plaintiff is not a nutritionist food expert or food scientist; she is a lay consumers [sic] who did not possess the specialized knowledge Ferrero had which otherwise would have enabled her to associate high levels of saturated fat and refined sugar with disease.I don't consider myself a food expert or food scientist either, Mrs. Hohenberg, but I am well-aware that EATING FAT MAKES YOU FAT.* You've got to be fucking kidding me. I cannot believe this is real.
* UPDATE [11feb11]: To those who have pointed out that caloric intake (in the case, coming mainly from sugar), and not literal fat intake, is what leads to one putting on weight, you are absolutely right. It was a figure of speech â "fat" meaning fattening foods in general â and admittedly not a clear one.
Plaintiff, in the exercise of reasonable diligence, could not have discovered Ferrero's deceptive practice earlier because, like nearly all consumers, she does not read scholarly publications or other materials describing the negative impact of consuming foods high in saturated fat and refined sugars.I would LOVE to peruse the "scholarly publication" that contains the bombshell that saturated fat and refined sugars are â GASP! â bad for you! I'm guessing the pub is titled Food Facts Every Person With Their Spinal Cord Attached to Their Fucking Brain Is Aware Of, Except This Lady, Who Would Rather File a Frivolous Fucking Lawsuit Than Put in the .5 Seconds of Rational Thought It Requires to Make Sure Her Child Doesn't End Up On a "Fat Babies" Segment of Maury. For the record, I think Nutella is delicious in moderation, but I don't think I'll be eating it for awhile after hearing about this. All it'll do is remind me of Mrs. Hohenberg, who has decided to blame a supermarket product for her disturbing inability to think for herself.
The problem is that you have to have damages for a lawsuit. You can't say 'I'm too smart to fall for your blatant lying tricks, but more stupid people might be harmed.' If you do that, you'll get nothing. You have to actually show harm in order to even have a case, let alone get them to stop. . I'm not saying that that is the case here, but it seems like it.
I have to say this makes me mad when even my 4 year old daughter knows that Nutella isn't for everyday breakfast. My daughter gets it for her fun Saturday breakfast every other Saturday but she gets to choose a handful of healthy foods to eat with it. Aside from that she doesn't eat it because it is not healthy as an everyday breakfast, lunch and midnight snack. It is still a processed food and like all processed foods it is okay to have in moderation but it is still not healthy. If my 4 year old daughter knows its not healthy for everyday then any mother out there should know. Read the labels, they were put there for a reason!
Drew, I agree that it's "up to us to make educated decisions," if only by necessity. But I part ways with you in that I think that using the law to keep companies honest is an appropriate action for a consumer. Yes, we all have "personal responsibility," and that includes the individuals who profit from Nutella and who create its advertising; it seems to me that they initiated this controversy by shirking their personal responsibility first. I'd happily be the Nutella spokesperson. I'd get in front of the camera and say "I eat a healthy diet, I exercise regularly, and when I want to splurge, Nutella is the most deliciously decadent treat in the grocery store. It's fattening, but it's SOOO GOOOOOD!" If they took that angle, instead of having a mom say it's healthy for her kids, we wouldn't have this problem now.
I think a lot of the way I feel about it comes from the fact that my parents were grossly uneducated about nutrition and literally let my sister and I select all the family's groceries from the time we were in preschool. And how do you think we decided what we wanted? You can't expect small children to have the kind of critical thinking skills to sort out advertising. I mean, we don't allow advertisements for cigarettes on TV for this very reason. You can't count on all parents to be like yours and as a society I feel like it's reasonable to at least try to protect vulnerable kids.
Wow. First off, who would be dumb enough to actually believe Nutella is health food? Pretty much anything that has one healthy ingredient, and a sh!tload of unhealthy ingredients will make this claim. It's nothing new. Use some common sense, and maybe, just maybe you should actually read nutrition facts before you feed it to your kids by the handful. That said, Nutella isn't going to kill you. It's not any worse than eating most brands of peanut butter. Just don't eat more than you should and you'll be fine.
hahaha nice comment, people are so succinct.
This is a perfect example of the abdication of responsibility that modern fox-news watching, god-fearing, money-grubbing american parents have. According to them, it's up to teachers to discipline and raise their children, the media/clergy to tell them what to think and food producers and advertisers to tell them what to eat. And if those people don't live up to their fairytale standards? Why, sue them of course! This is Ameri-kuh, and money and fame are the be all and end all of everything! Has anyone here seen "Idiocracy"? This special breed of brain-dead moron is precisely what is wrong with the US of A, and they won't be going anywhere unless their less-brain-dead counterparts stand up and get counted.
BEST. RANT. EVER. My sis posted this to facebook..and I'm going to share it with everyone I know. Stupid people and the willfully ignorant piss me off in ways that I can't even describe without developing a stutter. And zombies aren't real. pah.
Is it really that bad for you? It's basically exactly the same as peanut butter, which isn't exactly a junk food. About the same amount of fat and calories, but not as much protein.
Does the fact that this chocolate product is manufactured by a CANDY COMPANY not also piss anyone off?
It's healthy if eaten straight out of the jar with a spoon. Because then it doesn't count ;)
Of course the key is right there.... "be a up to us to make educated decisions". Educated decisions require education, which, is sorely lacking in so many areas. I had a health class in school. That health class was 90% sex ed. Not complaining, it definitely had real advantages to have a strong sex ed class and not just hearsay from the street or my parents non-existent treatment of the topic, but.... the class was not really a full every day sort of class, and it was only part of the year, the rest being "home ec" where we were basically introduced to sewing. In more traditional cuisine, as was what people generally ate up until a few of generations ago, you didn't need to worry as much about nutrition so much, as people ate a variety of things, which varied with seasonal availability. Now, processed food and particularly processed sugar, it simply makes up a HUGE percentage of what food is even available. Never mind sugar, salt too. Now, luckily, I learned to actually cook in a kitchen, and I make good money, so i can buy and cook raw food myself. Not everyone even gets that, never mind nutrition education, that I had to learn on my own, and is still only rudimentary. This stuff is hard, it really is disonest for companies to use peoples ignorance to sell sugary product as "healthy".
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that's a load of bunk ma'am. it is just another example of letting people to shirk their personal responsibility in order to "protect the children" Implying there need to be stricter laws in place about ANYTHING to let parents avoid parenting is completely ridiculous.
Thanks Pete. All good things in moderation.
Classic American, blame everyone but yourself for your own ignorance! Something for nothing always right? Hey Frank, in a perfect world the Nutella advertisements would be exactly as you said, but lets be realistic. companies are big stinkin liars because they want to make the most money possible. Nothing is ever going to change this. Not saying I agree with it, it's actually total bullshit, but that doensn't mean this lady is not accountable for knowing what she is eating In conclusion Nutella is DELICIOUS.
Jif peanut butter: Serving Size 2 Tbsp (32g) Calories 190 Calories from Fat 130 Nutella: Serving size 2 Tbsp (37g) Calories 200 Calories from Fat 100 What is the big commotion about? Nutella is hazelnut butter with a bit of cocoa. I don't see anyone suing Jif because of PB&J sandwiches.
"This may come as a shock to the plaintiff, but advertising, by virtue, is misleading â and that in NO WAY relieves you of your responsibilities as a consumer and as a parent." I agree that this particular case is misguided and the plaintiff should lose, but your statement implies that truth in advertising is irrelevant. It's a very, very gradual slope from complete truth to outright lies, especially when it comes to advertising. The whole *purpose* of advertising, as you point out, is to mislead people -- to convince them to buy things they don't need, to sell them on the idea that all their problems can be solved with simple, easy actions. Basically, we have a multi-billion dollar industry spending *all of its time* distorting the truth to everyone, with big, loud, mostly unavoidable messages that, even if you consciously reject every one, still have an effect on you. And not everybody has that luxury.
The problem is that you have to have damages for a lawsuit. You can't say âI'm too smart to fall for your blatant lying tricks, but more stupid people might be harmed.' If you do that, you'll get nothing. You have to actually show harm in order to even have a case, let alone get them to stop. . I'm not saying that that is the case here, but it seems like it.
So does this mean stirring Nutella into my whole-grain oatmeal isn't healthy? Man...
I am appalled. Why so much hate for the ignorant? Let's assume that person X is in fact a "total idiot" and therefore has trouble differentiating between reasonable and ridiculous advertisements. I understand your anger that such a person's actions may be harmful to their children, but the way in which you express it, is likely to stop people from asking questions and become better parents (who wants to be attacked for ignorance?). Advertisement campaigns are rarely continued when they are not effective. Are you suggesting that those people that struggle to tell truth from fiction are fair game to be preyed on?
Shes suing for false advertisement, I know people know that hazelnut and choco are bad, but these guys are plainly saying "this stuff is good for you and is in no way bad for you"
I agree pretty much 100% with your article, *except* that eating FAT does not actually make you FAT. What's fattening about Nutella is the sugar, and that sugar served in concert with a bunch of other starches (probably white bread toast). Fat is problematic in the diet because it, along with salt, focuses the appetite and helps a person concentrate on packing away the simple sugars and low-fiber carbohydrate bulk. *That* stuff is what bodies make fat from. Anyway, suing the Nutella people is obviously retarded, but they left themselves wide open to this eventuality by talking about nutrition *at all*. It's candy, and they should just be honest and sell it as such.
point taken Alejandro but the way im reading it this girl is saying she had absolutely NO CLUE that sugar and fat were bad for you, and took the company's "suggestion" to eat it as part of a "Balanced" breakfast as 100% true gospel. im sorry but that is sad and pathetic. if we were all like this woman and automatically believed everything every company said and did and didnt learn anything on our own, it would be the movie Idiocracy. not that far off now that i think about it... Again... Nutella is delicious
hahaha nice rant, people are so dumb.
I agree that a lawsuit is not a good way to address this problem, but the fact is that the Nutella TV spots in particular are extremely deceptive, more so even than a lot of other ads. The solution, in my opinion, is strict regulation on marketing processed food of any kind, especially to or for children. This women doesn't seem to be that bright and is obviously dropping the ball on the nutrition part of parenting, but when I read about it, I hoped it would draw attention to the problems of junk food deceptively marketed for kids. Food manufacturers should have to be more straightforward on the labels and in their ads.
You don't have to be a food scientist to read a nutrition label. I hate people.
Im going to go home, eat Nutella and not feel guilty because like any rational persons who consumes fat and sugar - I exercise. What a dumbass trying to get a free lunch.
FrankDNA: Thank you for your comment. I'm not defending the backhanded dealings of the company that produces Nutella as much as I'm demanding that people like this woman take personal responsibility for her health and the health of her family. Stricter regulation re: truth in labeling/marketing is an ambitious and honorable goal, but I think we can both agree it ain't happening overnight. Perhaps I'm a cynic, but companies have been lying to consumers for centuries and I don't think that's ever going to change. That's why, in the now, I think it'll always be up to us to make educated decisions, instead of pushing the brunt of the blame outward.
I get your point, but I don't think that big corporations should be let off the hook for lying just because the lie seems obvious to most of us. Here's what's on Nutella's website, in a section called âNutella & Nutritionâ: âCreate a meal of whole wheat toast or a whole-grain toaster waffle with Nutella® hazelnut spread, a small bowl of sliced strawberries and a glass of 1% milk for a good mix of morning nutrients. When used in moderation with complementary foods, Nutella® can form a part of a balanced meal. It is a quick and easy way to encourage kids to eat whole grains, such as whole wheat toast, English muffins, toaster waffles and bagels. With the unique taste of Nutella®, kids may think they are eating a treat for breakfast while moms are helping nourish their children with whole grains.â And that follows 4 paragraphs about the importance of a nutritious breakfast, complete with academic citations & quotes from a registered dietitian!
TV advertising and marketing is generally about the art of deception. Nutella isn't made of veggies; if you've ever called or dealt with an employee of comcast - you know its not comcastic; douching isn't a streamside stroll with your moms; and Taco Bell doesn't make you smile, it gives you the squirts.
As an American parent raising his child to eat like a French kid (french mother), Nutella is common in our food. The question is when does the child eat it and by how much. We eat at most a table spoon a day spread over whole wheat toast (just like the commercial!). Other terrible French breakfast habits include cookies for breakfast and entire bowls worth of hot chocolate. Then again I have a three year old who is not a fiend for sugar and candy because it is not part of an award system but part of his reasonable diet. That parent is out of her mind.
Joy: Thanks so much for sharing your opinion. I agree that a large portion of food marketing in this country is misleading by its very nature, particularly to kids â we invented the Happy Meal, after all! But my hang-up is, where does the importance of individual nutritional education/ decision-making end and the need for macro-regulation begin? I've always felt strongly that it HAS to begin at the kitchen table. I was extremely lucky to grow up in a family that cared about eating right, but I am well-aware that not every kid out there is going to have the same situation. Do you think stricter regulation from the government would in turn influence folks on the ground level to make the proper nutritional decisions for their families? I'd like to think so, but the cynic in me fears that even a strict, wide-spanning crackdown wouldn't nip the issue in the bud (see the forever-duplicitous marketing in the tobacco industry).
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Bags of Doritos Collisions are meant, by design, to feature two separate varieties of Dorito that taste nice (as nice as 'ritos can taste) when crunchily combined. So imagine our shock and frustration when we ripped open this hot wing/blue cheese bag (purchased at the 7-Eleven at 22nd and Lombard, a frequent Meal Ticket convenience haunt) and discovered that its contents were about 99 percent blue cheese and 1 percent hot wing. Munchie blasphemy! This is an affront to sedentary snackers nationwide, Doritos! You should be ashamed. We expect a package containing a Ziploc bag filled with seven to 10 hot wing chips forthwith.
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Ha Ha! LMAO. Poor Drew. No one should ever have to deal with 1% hot wing.
LOL. This is horrible it's like ordering a dozen blue cheeses with a side of chicken wing.
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When Chima Brazilian Steakhouse first opened in Philly in May 2008, they gave out two-for-one vouchers to people to draw new diners in. To my knowledge, they are no longer offering these. But that hasn't stopped people on Chima's CP restaurant database page from leaving comments requesting that we send them coupons (see below).
Guys:
City Paper is a print and web publication. It is not a Brazilian churrascaria. No one here wears gaucho pants and bolo ties and/or jaunty neckerchiefs. We do not run around with giant metal skewers of beef. We cannot make you a caipirinha. And most importantly, we do not have any Chima two-for-one coupons.
I see here that you can get a $25 gift certificate by registering on Chima's Web site. Please do that so I stop waking up in the middle of the night in a cold sweat screaming about rodizio meats.
Love,
Drew Lazor, Food Editor
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"No one here wears gaucho pants and bolo ties and/or jaunty neckerchiefs." That's only true cause Rapa stopped.
Hey Drew, City Paper is not listed on the "How did you hear about us" section on Chima's website. You know the e-crazies! We'll be signing up in droves, so CP should get the credit. B
[...] who do only one thing: plead for 2-for-1 coupons. Food/Meal Ticket/Web Editor Drew Lazor attempted to stem the tide a few months ago by stating that City Paper is a print/web publication and not, in fact, a [...]
Hi Drew, Thanks for the info - damn e-crazies! So...when will i be getting my two-for-one voucher??? :P
With the exception of a very welcome appearance by my favorite Top Chef, Season 3 winner Hung, this was the suckiest episode in recent memory. The number one reason: The spiritless "farm to table" theme haphazardly driven home by the cheftestants' visit to Dan Barber's Blue Hill at Stone Barns in upstate New York.
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No disrespect to Chef Barber and Co., but their inclusion in this episode caused me to stew over my biggest (admittedly tangential) pet peeve about the excruciating "locavore" trend. Are local/sustainable/organic ingredients great? Absolutely — they taste excellent. I'm just sick of A) people who go out of their way to pat themselves on the back because they think it's impressive that they've come to this utterly obvious realization ("Hey everyone, I rule because I use fresh ingredients! Look how amazing and socially conscious and green I am!"); and B) smug diners/home cooks who look down on people who buy lettuce from Shop-Rite instead of exclusively sourcing from a central Vermont-based microgreen farmer who fertilizes his crops with fossilized pterodactyl droppings that he spreads across his fields in the pattern of a Tibetan sand mandala.
Please don't get me wrong — I'm all about locally sourced, farm-fresh ingredients. I think you should use them whenever possible. But just know that I'm going to give you shit the second you start behaving like the epicurean equivalent of those self-important douches who think they're singlehandedly preserving humanity by driving their kids to riding lessons in a Toyota Prius. It's food. If it tastes good, eat it and stop looking for a medal of valor. (This is not the first time I've said my piece about this — 13th down.)
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Quickfire: This challenge, which Hung oversaw, gave the chefs 15 minutes to create a delicious morsel — using only canned, pre-fab ingredients (THE HORROR! NEED ... ORGANIC ... BUTTERNUT SQUASH ... TO SURVIVE). I personally loved this task because it featured copious amounts of Spam, the Filipino household staple that people like to hate on even though they've never tried it. Trust me, it's a godlike product — as evidenced by Hosea making the top three for his Spam 'n' sweet pea soup, as well as Stefan's immunity win for his Spam-ified baked bean soup and Velveeta grilled cheese. Hung knows the deal.
Elimination: After being split up into three separate groups — pork, lamb and chicken — the chefs traveled to the afoermentioned Blue Hills to cook a family-style lunch, for a crunchy local/sustainable crew, using products fresh off the farmstead. "This is totally the food I do," Jamie said. Scallop fields on yonder! After some uninspired moaning and groaning from Tom, Padma, Toby and a few people who looked like they'd just gotten back from watching The Wizard of Oz on mute with Dark Side of the Moon playing the background, Team Chicken — The Duchess of Scallopshire, Stefan and dessert master Carla (who's really grown on me) — earned a three-fer win for their simple pollo menu. (Did anyone else notice that Stefan seemed to establish a deep spiritual connection with the live chicken he was cradling during their farm tour?)
Though Team Pork (our dude Jeff got a lot of face time) was tsk-tsked for a few misgivings, Team Lamb — Ariane, Hosea and the increasingly irritating Leah — ended up in the bottom three. As expected, the Gross Couple, BOTH OF WHOM HAVE SIGNIFICANT OTHERS, turned their gross backs on Ariane at judges' table, which seemed to contribute to the sweetheart Jersey mom's dismissal.
True, Ariane didn't know how to properly butcher the lamb or tie it up so the meat roasted evenly in the oven — but she openly admitted her lack of expertise in that particular area, while Leah and Hosea openly admitted that they possessed such experience. Instead of working as a team to try and stay off the chopping block, Gross Couple let her fuck things up, with every intention of placing the blame squarely on her if it came down to it. Yeah yeah, I know you often have to play dirty on reality TV. It was just especially noxious this week, namely because Ariane is so likable and Gross Couple is so not.
Oh well. I'm confident Ariane has a future in TV. Like Gail, she's got a nice balance of expertise and approachability. Catch you on Food Network, girl.
NEXT WEEK: Restaurant Wars!
Leah and Hosea should be poked with red-hot forks for throwing Ariane under the bus like that. If I had to work in either of those drips' restaurant I'd hide all their side towels and fleur de sel. Cook now, Smuggos!
I don't remember exactly what they said, but the pun on Whole Foods was a bit lame.
Clint: It was something along the lines of "This is a different kind of whole food!" Everyone snickered. I threw a vat of partially hydrogenated soybean oil at my TV.
leah needed to get booted out this week. it was plainly ridiculous that ariane was sent home. complete b.s. i've never seen leah cook anything decent and, while i know the judges just judge on that one particular elimination challenge, leah did less then nothing to make that meal. rahdika got crap because she made a salad, so why was that ignored? craziness.
Hosea seems like he came from a really big Evangelical Christian family and spent/spends a lot of time in youth groups.....
These are just a few of the food- and drink-related target goals I've set for myself in 2009.
- Stop eating so much goddamn red meat. Eat more fresh fruit and vegetables. Local is best.
- Drink more water. Drink less soda.
- Stop over-ordering at bars and restaurants just because you are drunk and can't decide between six different things.
- Buy a deep fryer.
- Stop yourself from buying a deep fryer.
- Buy one or two badass chef's knives. Get one of those magnetic knife strip things to store them on. Perfect act of tossing knife onto magnetic strip from afar so you look cool in front of people.
- Stop eating so many Stouffer's microwavable chicken pot pies. But they're soooo good!
- Start figuring out — for real — which wines you like and don't like so you don't just keep blindly picking stuff off wine lists because the name sounds cool.
- Start awesome bourbon collection. Key to starting awesome bourbon collection: Stop drinking entire bottles of bourbon the same day you buy them.
- Visit the following restaurants, which I am ashamed to admit I've never eaten at (this list is sure to grow immensely): Buddakan | Earth Bread + Brewery | Fork | Honey's Sit 'n' Eat | Jovan's Place | Kanella | Miran | Morimoto | Rangoon | Talula's Table | 10 Arts | Under the Oak Café | Zocalo
What about you — have any eating-related resolutions you'd like to share? Let us know in the comments!
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Starbucks is working with the Red Campaign to raise support funds on World AIDS Day, which is Dec. 1.
Join us in support of World AIDS Day. We're giving 5¢ to the Global Fund for every hand-crafted Starbucks beverage sold on December 1, 2008 at participating US and Canada locations.
Invite your friends! We're counting on every customer to help make a difference. Together, we can do a world of good.
Naturally, this ostensibly positive (and rather benign) charity function has been met head-on by a bunch of assholes who happen to have Internet access.
After the jump, check out a minute cross-section of the thousands of thousands of terrible people who have posted comments on the event's Facebook page (must be logged in to view).
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Always has been, always will be. Don't let Martha Stewart throw you off your game.
You break my heart.
Studiokitchen's Shola Olunloyo responds to Meal Ticket's restaurant music rant (and we respond back)
The other day, I excerpted a write-up that Mémé chef/owner David Katz posted on his restaurant's MySpace blog. The subject at hand: patrons who have complained about the music he plays during service.
It amazes me how many people have an idea of what restaurant music should be. Like there is one kind of music played at one certain loudness for every restaurant in the United States! Haven’t these people been in any other style of restaurant? Maybe a gastro-pub, a bistro??? We are NOT a formal slow dining restaurant.
Using Katz's statement as a jump-off, I went on to throw in my own opinion — I think people who complain about this kind of stuff need to rejigger their priorities. Music selection? Volume? Let's concentrate on the food and drink we're paying good money to enjoy. That's my stance.
Earlier today, chef Shola Olunloyo, who runs the blog Studiokitchen (and knows Katz), offered up a retort — not to the music issue, but rather to what he perceived as self-serving pontification that tarnished his colleague's reputation. "I am very concerned that opportunistic journalism is becoming increasingly common in food writing," Olunloyo writes. "Too many writers today will easily sacrifice the subject for the story." An excerpt of his response:
I think this article does the chef a disservice because more than a philosophical discussion on restaurant music selection or volume, it paints an egomaniacal portrait of someone who probably is a much nicer person but just does not have the right filters regarding how he is quoted.
Furthermore the fact that while the City Paper seems to agree that restaurant patrons should have absolutely no say in the volume or selection of the music, the "category" of the posting is filed under "Ill Advised Ranting" thus acknowledging that it probably is a very bad idea to say things like this publicly.
That is what I find increasingly disappointing about food writing.
I do not think that my post portrays Katz in an "egomaniacal" light. If you check out our recent Q&A with him, it's pretty clear that he tends to speak his mind. And in an industry that's fiercely watchdogged by public relations pros, that's kinda refreshing. "Control your image. Do not say a word. Let your publicist speak for you," Olunloyo advises restaurant types at the end of his post. Though hospitality PR is a vital cog in the machine, that is straight-up terrifying to a food writer. If every chef, owner, etc. subscribed to such a credo, readers would be subjected to nothing but prefab quotes and meticulously regulated info. And that wouldn't be good for anyone, restaurants included.
As far as me making Katz appear "inhospitable" by quoting him: There was plenty of preemptive press on Mémé, and much of it touched on the chef's candid nature. Yet the place has been open for going on a month and it looks busy every night. Perhaps these people just dig the food and aren't even concerned with/aware of Katz's public image. (Maybe they like the music, too?)
One notable distinction that Olunloyo does not point out: Katz shared his thoughts in a very public forum. I did not badger him with loaded questions to acquire juicy quotes, then take them out of context to serve my own sadistic journo needs. "If I didn't feel that way or want anybody to know, I wouldn't have posted it on MySpace," the chef confirms via e-mail.
Lastly, the blog category "Ill-Advised Ranting" references ME, not Katz or whoever else may be cited in future rantage. I created it to distinguish thoughts/gripes straight from my craw from some of the more reporterly stuff you'll find here on Meal Ticket.
I have renamed the category "Drew Lazor's Ill-Advised Rant Factory" to prevent future confusion.
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| Read A.D. Amorosi's interview with Katz here. |
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David Katz of the brand-new Mémé (2201 Spruce St.) likes music. And he likes to play it in his restaurant. "The music will be heard in this joint — no ambient smooth jazz," he told us back in August.
But it seems some diners are not feeling this policy. An excerpt from Katz's MySpace blog:
So. If you are one of the couple hundred people that has dined with us thus far you'd know that we play music in the restaurant. The music is a touch on the loud side, but not too loud. It is intended on being heard and not just background music. the music that plays is an array of good rock like The Smith's, The Police, The Clash, Neil Young, Bob Dylan and even some reggae like Gregory Isaak's and Steel Pulse. Some occasional Bob Marley too.
The reason I'm writing this is because we have seen and heard some over the top complaining about the music from some people so far and one woman on her way out even shook her finger at me saying "shame on you" with sincerety! Like I committed some sort of crime. It amazes me how many people have an idea of what restaurant music should be. Like there is one kind of music played at one certain loudness for every restaurant in the United States! Haven't these people been in any other style of restaurant? Maybe a gastro-pub, a bistro??? We are NOT a formal slow dining restaurant. I just read a review on Zagat's about us and the person says it was "beer swigging bar music". The Police - Don't Stand So Close To Me is that offensive? Wow...
I agree with Katz's sentiment that many people seem to "have an idea" of what type of music a restaurant should play. Bottom line: Unless it's a jukebox situation, it ain't up to you. Stop whining. I go out to eat a lot, and I've had plenty of experiences where a restaurant's music was not to my taste. But while solid tunes definitely augment a good time, I never let crappy ones ruin my evening. Like napkin dispensers or ketchup bottles, the music's just there. (Can you tell I eat at classy places?) If you don't dig it, drown your frown in bread and butter and deal. If you can't, you suck.
Anecdotal example: A server I know once told me about a daytime shift she was working at a busy Center City lunch spot. A table of businessmen pulled her aside and requested that the song playing in the restaurant — "BILLIE JEAN" — be nixed because they found it unpleasing. (Management obliged.) Can you think of a single R&B-ish song more acceptable to squeamish, brow-sweating white-collar dudes in dress sock holsters than "Billie Jean"? Now, every time I hear it, I think "Man, those guys were total dicks."
Volume is a completely separate issue. (I'm talking strictly restaurants here, not bars, and strictly restaurant music, not the dull roar of diner chatter, noise from an open kitchen, etc.) I couldn't tell you how loud is too loud, but a threshold does exist. (One particularly eardrum-shattering meal: Grabbing an early dinner at Ashoka Palace while the next-door Whistle Bar tested their sub-sub-subwoofers. My raita quivered like the Jell-O in Jurassic Park. I didn't know raita could quiver!)
I have never felt compelled to complain about music selection or music volume. But what about you, Meal Ticket readers? Have you found yourself in a situation where it was absolutely necessary to say something about a restaurant's music? If so, what was your reasoning? Let's hear it in the comments section. Be as loud as you like.
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