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I've been to Academy of Natural Sciences forums before, so I know that PowerPoint presentations are the norm ⦠but still, was anyone else surprised when David Byrne started clicking off slide after slide?
Last night's bike lecture, led by the Talking Heads co-founder and author of Bicycle Diaries (Viking, $25.95) — which was only OK, despite what they tell you, and I'm a bike head — began a little late. There was a video montage of bikes in cinema (The Wizard of Oz, The Sound of Music, unidentifiable '80s movies, etc.) to keep the audience placated, though. Then, at around 6:30, Byrne took to the stage, in a black button-up shirt and loose, comfy-looking black pants, looking as dapper as ever. Byrne hasn't really aged at all — he looks the same as he did 20 years ago, but with gray hair.
I was only able to stay for an hour, but here's what I learned:
— While writing Bicycle Diaries, the three books Byrne thought about most were Michael Sorkin's Twenty Minutes in Manhattan, Jane Jacobs' The Death and Life of Great American Cities, and Christopher Alexander's The Timeless Way of Building.
— Termits build high rises in Australia.
— Frank Lloyd Wright may have made many beautiful buildings, but dude had wack ideas about how cities should look. He essentially wanted there to be a few skyscrapers dotted on various plots of farmland. In other words, no community.
— The General Motors pavilion at the 1939 World's Fair was frightening. They wanted highways everywhere. They got 'em.
— Byrne is fairly confident that cities will be less car-focused and more people- and bike-focused in the future. He kept uttering things like, "It will probably change soon, I hope" and "Some of the cities might come back."
— Italy seems like the perfect country to bike in (because of the small streets).
— In L.A., the actual streets are so anti-pedestrian that they build artificial streets.
— Byrne called the floating whore houses in Utretch "charming." It was funnier then than it sounds now.
Sadly, I had to leave after that. Cloggers, if you went, how was the roundtable discussion afterward?
RELATED: Head Over Wheels: David Byrne on what'll make Philly a great bike city, once and for all
Ah, yes, the city of Italy.
Oops. Thanks for catching that, Pete. All fixed.
David was good. The other panelists were better. Shame because his star power is what drew many to this event. Compliments to Alex,Ignacio,and Julie
The Daily News' Stu Bykofsky and I have a little back-and-forth going over the bike lanes on Spruce and Pine, and today I invited (okay, challenged) Stu to take a bike ride with me and CP's Isaiah Thompson first down a city street without a dedicated bike lane and a city street with one.
Last week, in my editor's letter, I accused Stu of being a bully. And this morning, Stu sent me an e-mail that read:
"Stu bullies motorists today. Don't miss it!"
And I'll hand it to Stu for sticking it to the maniacs who find it acceptable to operate their two-ton steel, glass and vinyl weapons on residential city streets while texting, dialing and/or talking on cell phone.
And though I take issue with his use of statistics in some of his bike lane pieces, he's got good numerical backup in this morning's piece:
That cellphone use creates deadly distracted driving is disputed by no (sane) person I could find - and I even looked on the Internet, the corkscrew colony for crackpot contrarians.
Cell-phone use quadruples the risk of an auto accident, according to the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety. It causes 636,000 crashes, 330,000 injuries and 2,600 deaths annually, according to the Harvard Center of Risk Analysis, which estimates the cost at $43 billion.
All age groups use cell phones while driving, but it creates an unusual effect among the young - the least experienced drivers and the most cell-addicted:
"If you put a 20-year-old driver behind the wheel with a cell phone, their reaction times are the same as a 70-year-old driver who is not using a cell phone," says University of Utah psychology professor David Strayer. "It's like instantly aging a large number of drivers."
Is it an easy target? Sure. But a very worthwhile one nonetheless. In the piece, Byko makes enforcement suggestions that would be well applied to cyclists as well.
Drivers have been warned, but many continue to roam with phones in hand. Does this come from a misplaced sense of entitlement - or no sense at all?
Why do they persist? Not enough enforcement.
Solution? Blanket enforcement.
For a week, police should stop and ticket every violator they see. They are not hard to find.
Skip a few weeks, then repeat as often as necessary to drive the fear of enforcement - and the $75 fine - through their gooney-bird skulls.
To all the people who complain about scofflaw cyclists — yes, there are cyclists who bend and snap the law. And the reason they do is that there's next to zero enforcement (and that cyclists are regularly treated as non-entities by the police and drivers).
I tend to agree on the downside of bike lanes. Also the mentality of 20 year olds driving while texting (in my opinion) is far more dangerous than an 80 year old driver with limited vision. On the other side.. cyclists need to adhere to the same laws and they need to be strictly enforced. Things would be much simpler if that were to happen. Myself, I don't see it happening in the near future. It's going to take a major catastrophe before something is done. Same as everything else in our lovely city. I rest my case!
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A couple of days ago, I got a rather chipper email from the Bicycle Coalition of Greater Philadelphia, the region's largest bicycle advocacy group.
In it, Executive Director Alex Doty wrote the following (emphasis added):
Yesterday morning, there was a copy of a letter from Councilman Kenney on my desk asking the head of the Parking Authority for stepped up enforcement of vehicles blocking bike lanes. How did we get from November's legislation to this?
See below for details of a very productive meeting we had with Councilmen Kenney and DiCicco hosted by Deputy Mayor Rina Cutler. What I took from that meeting was that the Councilmen are fed up with sidewalk riding. While I understand why some people do it, I am also fed up with sidewalk riding. But the Councilmen, like us, are also fed up with cars -- and even pedestrians — not following the rules of the road. Fed up enough to follow up one of our concerns with a letter to the Parking Authority. Thank You, Councilman Kenney!
Councilmembers Kenney and DiCicco are, of course, the very same lawmakers who sought a little while back to impose hefty — OK, more like hysterically insane — fines on bicyclists for riding with headphones, riding on the sidewalk, or riding fixed-gear bike unequipped with a brake (I actually agreed with them wholeheartedly on that one).
Though the laws were harsh, the tone taken by DiCicco and Kenney was always reasonable, and they spoke of equal and equitable enforcement. This little bit of news shows that they meant it, and that they're willing to respond to public input: Democracy with a D, if you ask me.
Which makes, by the way, whoever invented the "Frank DiCicco sucks: equal rights for bikes" T-shirt look even more dense than they did when said shirt appeared in a Philadelphia Weekly article about the laws.
Who sucks now, T-shirt? Hm?
Diciccio still sucks, and Kenny. They are still trying to get bike messengers to register for riding in the cities. Which must have been who they were targeting in the first place when they tried to get all those crazy laws enforced on everyone, only to find out that Philadelphia is a huge cycling city and his 'look before you leap' attitude got him tons of criticism from fellow councilmen and other officials. Now to save face they start listening to what people started saying in the first place and give everyone equal enforcement. No matter what this is what they want, they want to do things that get there name in the papers so come election time everyone knows there names.
Jeff: So making sure cyclists, especially those who tend to pose a greater danger than others, follow the laws already in effect is bad so it reduces crashes and near-misses? At the same time, you can have equal-enforcement, but sometimes there is a need to crackdown on one group or another in order to re-achieve it.
I have never seen a bike messenger stop at a red light, have any of you?
I've seen a few, but most of them seem to just jet through or stop for a little bit until they see its safe to go.
[...] who proposed some fairly ridiculous, unfair bike enforcement laws in November (but who, as of late, may be an OK guy after all). "When Frank DiCicco dies,” says Hammer, “bury him with his ass out of the ground [...]
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Neighborhood Bike Works is taking full advantage of the Martin Luther King holiday and day of service, recruiting volunteers to help spruce up its old and *new* locations.
REI and the Bicycle Club of Philadelphia are sponsoring the event (REI is kicking in a $7,000 grant for an Earn a Bike mountain bike program) and there's still time to volunteer (today and in the glorious future of 2010). Locations are below.
On the *new* note: NBW is expanding both its children's programing and its supremely awesome bike church to North Philly, near Temple — the drop-in public bike shop, powered by volunteers who will not only help you find what you need but teach you how to fix your bike yourself.
It's a terrific program, it raises funds for the kids, and it's a hell of a way to learn about bikes, whatever your starting skill level (I volunteer there myself!). The fact that there will soon be a bike church in North Philly â and, apparently, one in South Philly and other locations at some point â increases tremendously Philadelphia's coolness as a city, so this is good news.
The new location is already open for kids' programs, and the expanded bike church program will be opening soon. E-mail Cat for more info or to volunteer.
Locations for volunteering today (call 215-386-0316):
3916 Locust Walk
230 N. Salford Street.
1424-1426 Susquehanna Ave.
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There are, of course, no more seats available, but those interested in attending the 6 p.m. reception and 6:30 lecture can sign up to be on the waiting list by hitting davidbyrneusf.eventbrite.com.
David is too cool..not only because of the Theads and those awesome shorts, but bicycle advocacy is a great passion. I recall recently seeing a story about some sculptures that are actually used for locking
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Cutler says that during the pilot phase, bike traffic on Pine and Spruce Streets went up significantly on those streets while car traffic dropped 11 percent. And average speeds, she says, dropped only slightly: "The average vehicle speeds changed by at most two miles an hour, where the speeds changed at all." She says that change is not significant, making the pilot program in her view a success -- so much so that the bike lane concept could expand:
"We certainly are going to take a look at additional east-west streets and try to figure out where else in the city we might want to do this." So the obvious questions are: Where next? And why just east-west streets? I say Fifth and Sixth to connect Northern Liberties and the Northeast with Bella Vista and South Philly would be a good start. Then maybe Walnut and Chestnut west of the Schuylkill to connect University City with Upper Darby. Where do you want a bike lane?
Definitely 5th and 6th!! And: are the "bike" PHL shirts buyable?!
@kim: it appears that they were something you got for registering for Bike Philly. I have an e-mail out to the Bicycle Coalition asking if they're available elsewhere, but they don't appear to be on the BC cafepress page.
Northbound bike lane on 22nd seeks southbound partner on 21st.
You can buy the T-shirts at Eastern Mountain Sports 3401 Chestnut St (215) 382-0930. Bicycle Coalition members get a free shirt - Go to -http://bicyclecoalition.org and click on "Join".
i'd say 3rd and 4th (though re-paving would be key here). 5th would have to deal with the cobblestones at independence mall in addition to the underpass at BF bridge.
Received a letter to the editor (which you can read in its entirety after the jump) from Darco Lalevic of the Pennsylvania Cycling Association about the recent uproar over driving and cycling and walking in the city.
Among his very interesting points:
- "Enforcement will not fix things" — he cites the 270,929 tickets issued to motorists in 2008 as proof that enforcement doesn't alter behavior.
- More cyclists following the law — taking a full lane when entitled to, for example — would snarl traffic and thus "motorist aggravation and incidents of road rage would increase."
- Cyclists are killed by cars much more frequently than pedestrians are killed by cyclists.
He builds the idea, brought up in a 2008 article in The Atlantic, that essentially there are too many rules and regulations on streets and roads in the United States and that more rules, perhaps paradoxically, lead to more accidents.
The city needs to embrace newer thinking on urban traffic engineering going forward. There are more ideas other than just converting a car lane to a bike lane. In fact there is ample evidence that our tendency to add more rules and more signs increases our risk.
It reminded me of a trip I took to Hanoi, Vietnam, in 2004 and the shock and general amazement I felt at the way traffic seemed to move effortlessly despite there being no traffic signals at all. As you can see in the video (not mine) above, the motorbike-preponderant traffic weaved in and out at intersections, darting and bending, behaving more like schools of fish than the vector-based traffic stateside. This piece on the blog Cafe Hayek gets more into this trend of minimizing traffic laws rather than making them ever more complicated to deal with each new issue.
Could this work in Philadelphia? Or would the chaos be catastrophic?
Read Darco Lalevic's letter after the jump
Name: Darco Lalevic
Email: XXXXXXX@wharton.upenn.edu
Subject: Letter to the Editor
Message:
In all the media attention to City Council's efforts to crack down on cyclists, the resulting uproar over criminal cyclists, and cyclist's protesting their rights, none of the loud voices has addressed the practical issues involved. Stu Bykosfky pointed out that while cyclists gripe about dangerous motorists, in fact 270,929 tickets were issued to motorists in 2008, but only 14 to bicyclists. Clearly, enforcement of traffic rules for bicycles is necessary. However, what no one points out is that enforcement will not fix things (look at the number of tickets issued to motorists). Certainly the additional revenue for the city would be miniscule, and enforcement clearly does not change behavior. And while I wholeheartedly support enforcement of bicycle laws, does the general public know what would happen if all cyclists obeyed the law? More cyclists would take entire lanes of traffic where there are no bike lanes. They would stop at more lights and stop signs, delaying and slowing other vehicular traffic. Motorist aggravation and incidents of road rage would increase. Cyclists, who are already far more likely to be killed in a traffic accident, would be at even greater risk, for both accidents and intentional assaults. Motorists, cyclists, and pedestrians all regularly break traffic rules in this city, but it's the motorists who wield greater risk of death and injury.
The incidents which precipitated City Council's action are the issue. Cyclists killed by cars are the issue. Two pedestrians were killed in collisions with cyclists. Regardless of fault or negligence on either side (from what I have read, in one case the cyclist was riding illegally, in the other, the pedestrian was crossing illegally), and notwithstanding the personal tragedy for the families involved, death by bicycle is a rarity. In 2008, there were 92 traffic fatalities involving motor vehicles. 38 of those were pedestrians. Unfortunately, the city does not accurately track cyclists deaths, so I have been unable to tell if the approximately 22 cyclists killed are included in that number. Considering the overwhelming ratio of cars to bicycles, the higher risk of fatalities among cyclists is an issue.
The first step in addressing this is for the city and the police department to treat and respect bicycles as the vehicles they are. Enforce traffic laws, but treat bicycles as vehicles. Enforce laws on aggressive driving and prosecute road rage incidents. Many city cyclists have tales of being assaulted by vehicles, yet rarely is anything done when these are reported.
The city needs to embrace newer thinking on urban traffic engineering going forward. There are more ideas other than just converting a car lane to a bike lane. In fact there is ample evidence that our tendency to add more rules and more signs increases our risk. Last year, the Atlantic published a little recognized article on the very subject (http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200807/traffic).
I love my city, but it frustrates me when every debate comes down to calling cyclists "morally superior", calling drivers "reckless and stupid", and saying "sharing the road equally is insane". Let's stop bashing each other and do something positive.
Darco Lalevic
Board Member
Pennsylvania Cycling Association
Larry: I don't think it's apples and oranges. Most of the vehicles in that video are not bikes but motorbikes. So, yes, it is a little different, but maybe more like grapefruit and oranges. I think you might Americans by saying it couldn't* work here; I think it would take a MASSIVE education campaign and a lot of studies to make it work — and maybe it'd be too much work for it to be worthwhile, or perhaps the growing pains would dwarf the eventual benefits. Ron, I think the big difference between traffic here and traffic in other parts of the world is that there's more of a sense of responsibility for one's actions elsewhere. Maybe it's the preponderance of traffic signals here, but whereas in, say, Hanoi you'd approach every intersection alert and ready to maneuver through traffic, I think in the U.S. the attitude is "I've got the green, so I'm going and I'm not gonna look and if I get in an accident, let the lawyers will sort it out."
*might underestimate
After a week in Hanoi I finally understood the concept of crossing the street here, and having the balls to do it. Just walk across the intersection at a steady pace. Jump right in the fire. Traffic is heavy with motorbikes, cars, and bicycles but they will either stop or go around you. Very different here in the states. Try just walking into oncoming traffic in Philly like you would in Hanoi and you would wake up in a hospital missing limbs and multiple ribs tickling your lungs.
i cant wait to see a handsome lady trying to put her huffy back together. enjoy!
i encourage every vandal to find Bridget S's shanty hut and spraypaint pictures of cars running over bicycles etc etc........Sign it with the tag "courtesy." Then and only then will the american dream reach fruition.
i cant wait to bike home tonight and take up the entire lane. enjoy!
i encourage every cyclist in Philadelphia to take up the entire lane, stop for 3 seconds at every stop sign, etc etc...........we'll see how long it takes before the motorists are whining and complaining about it.... we ride to the side of the lane as a COURTESY, and have every right to take up the entire lane. i'd love to see the reaction, if i didnt think motorists in this city were crazy enough to run me down with their car (they almost do everyday as it is, when i ride hugging the curb). 2 pedestrians killed is, again, NOTHING near the number of cyclists killed every year. there needs to be more consequences to motorists... or some education that we are, in fact, allowed to bike in the road, something that none of the drivers seem to be aware of...
I'm an avid cyclist, and I agree with some of what he says, but I also understand basic statistics and I have state an exception to this point "Cyclists are killed by cars much more frequently than pedestrians are killed by cyclists." You can't make a valid comparison of these statistics so easily. Cars and cyclists have more opportunity to interact negatively, than do cyclists and pedestrians. It has to do with the frequency that each vehicle type occurs on the roads. I'd drop that 'point' as stated.
Apples and oranges. You have a video of a place where bikes are the main mode of transit and a culture that, to some degree, is pretty different than our own. People in country aren't on the same level as those in Vietnam, and the idea of eliminating traffic lights wouldn't work here. Do we need LESS laws and regulation? Across the board, yes we do. But we also need to enforce laws we already have instead of constantly making new ones to do the same thing. Cars need to share the road, cyclists need to follow the law and stay of the sidewalks, and pedestrians need to be kind and courteous to all. It's just that simple.
Want to do something positive, Darco? Get your brethren off the sidewalks.
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I live in Los Angeles and ride an average of 150 miles/week with a local club. It is a very challenging environment as some motorists view cyclists as another delay in their already awful commute. There are a few nuts out there but most drivers are well meaning if you ride smart. 1. Be visible (don't ride in the middle of the road and don't ride in the ditch. 3' from the white line works). 2. Communicate. 3. Be predictable. 4. Keep the middle finger in your pocket. 5. Ride in groups when possible. If you are experienced then none of this is new but with all the new riders out there we need to keep beating the drum.
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Local artist/Nite Lighter Joe Boruchow -- whose exhibit Public Service: New Paper Cutouts at The Bean Cafe, (615 South St.) closes on Tue., Dec. 8, btw -- sends a link to a piece he posted on his blog his reaction to the heavy-handed proposals being offered by City Council to solve the great bike menace.
Quoth Joe:
For those familiar with the proposed bicycle laws in Philadelphia, I offer this cutout. Not in Philly? Check out how the tribal hill people of our city council suggest bettering our fine metropolis - http://www.philly.com/philly/news/local/70444347.html
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My friend Chris McKenna just sent this video shot by bike evangelist Michael McGettigan of University City's Trophy Bikes. McGettigan set up a camera at Rittenhouse Square — it appears to be the east intersection with Locust — to see if anybody at all comes to a full stop (that's his red folding bike in the foreground). There are, count 'em, three stop signs and a flashing red light which means, as McGettigan explains in the video, that drivers must come to a complete stop and then proceed when it's safe. The coming to a stop issue is one that's always brought up by people on the "cyclists are scofflaws" side of the urban biking argument whenever these things are hollered about.
What did McGettigan find? Hardly anyone — cars, trucks, vans, SUVs, SEPTA buses, school buses (and, okay, cyclists, but we already knew that, right?) — comes to anything even resembling a complete stop unless there is a pedestrian directly in front of them. Most drivers roll right through. Some come to a stop only once they've entered the intersection to find a pedestrian already in the crosswalk.
What other intersections could use the McGetti-cam treatment?
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This video is useful. As I debated the crackdown on cyclist with friends via Facebook, one of them actually said that she believes most cars stop at stop signs. Perhaps her rhetoric was simply an attempt to shout me down but maybe there are a lot of people out there who generally believe that they are most other car drivers are good, safe drivers. Witness the guy who commented on this video on Youtube implying that because there is no car traffic coming from the left, it doesn't matter if cars fail to stop at this intersection. Never mind the people who are walking across Locust or 19th! The fact is that cops stopped enforcing almost all traffic violations decades ago. A crackdown on all forms of transit is needed, including buses and 2000 pound cars.
How about some balance and take a video half a block south at 19th & Spruce? That intersection is controlled by a real redlight and green light. I will bet the video will show cars completely stopped at the redlight waiting for it to turn green. I will also bet that at least half of the bicyclists will come to that same redlight and proceed to go if they do not see traffic coming, especially those in the new bike lane. As noted before, in this video two bicyclists blew through the stop sign and did not even try to slow down. Much commentary about the motorists breaking the law but not a peep about the two-wheelers.
There most certainly was a "peep" about the first cyclist who blew the stop sign. McGettigan definitely does mention the transgression.
@Philly Chit Chat: I think it's called the South Philly Slide or something like that.
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Don't they call this the South Philly Stop Sign stop. I think a little brake light is a good thing. Of course if a cop was behind me I would over stop and look both ways just in case.
I am all for positive change and the defense of cyclists because they are widely discriminated group... but this video does nothing to aid our cause, and everything to add more fuel to the fire against us. The two cyclists in the video just BLOW right through the stop sign while the commentator mentions, "ohh will he cut off the cyclist? nooooo". The moron cyclist blew through the stop sign! We need to keep the level headed discussions going, and cease to make videos like this that come off as whiney and self-deserving.
Upon official review: I stand corrected :)!
This is a weird "intersection" to choose because there is no cross traffic. So cars are literally only stopping for pedestrians. But you do have to note that almost every car at least paused while NONE of the cyclists even considered touching their brakes.
Mithras, we publish all comments. Yours just came in at the beginning of the holiday.
I see you still haven't published my comment from Wednesday night. How many others are being held in moderation? I bet you caught a ton more grief than you're willing to show.
Way to egg on the whole car/bike war. You bikers and your whining has become tedious and juvenile. Move to fucking Beijing if you want the streets for yourselves. Cars will always win.
I was hit by a bike heading down a one-way street the wrong way. I'd stepped off the curb to see whether my bus was coming, not expecting that a bike would approach from the opposite direction. Naive of me, I know.... More recently, I was about to start across Market Street near 30th Street Station--on a walk signal--when a cyclist went through the light, almost hitting me, and almost himself being hit by a car. And, yes, as a pedestrian, I've had near misses with cars, drivers whipping around corners while talking on cell phones and the like... or blocking the cross-walk. But shouldn't we hold drivers AND cyclists accountable for unsafe practices? More surprising than the accidents of the past couple of months is that there aren't more accidents.
I seem to recall being accused of using a straw man and red herring tactic when I took note of any number of bicyclists rolling through redlights and riding on sidewalks after I left the Pilot Bike Lane meeting in August. Would this video be a straw man or red herring? And really what is the point? Except to prove that unless the police enforce the laws equally across the board then nothing will change. But does that make the recent argument for bicyclists to obey traffic laws any less valid because of this video?
I think a whopping 98% of drivers actually never come to a full stop at a stop sign unless there's any actual reason to. To a large degree, I actually can understand that. Some people almost came to a full stop but fell short, and I think that's a fairly-decent way to go about it. The best, of course, is to come to a complete stop. This study really doesn't prove much. The cyclist didn't even come close to a full stop, he just flew by like there was nothing there. On top of that, this isn't a 4-way intersection, which would be the single best way to test it.
it really servse no point other than to show no one really obeys the laws as they should however they get across this city. should cyclists suddenly be targeted because a politicians need their names in the paper? no, but the city council should required their original law to be inforced. if the crackdown stops this stupid back and forth banter then it will do some good but everyone really needs to keep track of what they are doing instead of watching everyone else. let the police enforce what they want and live with it.
The more I see bullshit like this from bicyclists, the less sympathy I have for them.
21st and Hamilton. You'll see cop cars blowing through the intersection day and night.
Please take this study to 21st and Cherry. I'm going to die at that intersection. Thank you.
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