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POSTED: Wednesday, August 18, 2010, 8:50 PM
Filed Under: Nation | News | Rock Bottom

Yes, this goddamn mosque faux-controversy is still making headlines. But let's move beyond the "issue" itself, because the "issue" is verifiably idiotic. Rather, let's talk motives.

A guy from the Washington Examiner, Gene Healy, argues that the right-wing rabble is being played by the Republican establishment. It's an interesting argument:

All this posturing is getting tiresome. The "mosque" controversy isn't about property rights or religious freedom. It's a bogus issue seized by the GOP establishment to distract the rank-and-file from the party's reluctance to shrink government.

From all the caterwauling, you'd think the Park51 group planned to fashion a mock Kaaba out of trade center ashes and mount it atop the wreckage. But you can't see Ground Zero from the Park51 site -- it's separated by two canyonlike city blocks, occupying the former site of a Burlington Coat Factory. "Hallowed ground," indeed.

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You don't need to buy amateur theologian George W. Bush's line that Islam is "a religion of peace" to recognize that the Park51 controversy is a red herring. With Muslims making up 0.8 percent of the U.S. population, dhimmitude seems a more remote threat than national bankruptcy.

In a recent (pre-campaign?) appearance in Des Moines, Iowa, Newt Gingrich denounced Obama's "secular socialist machine," but, when asked, he declined to specify federal programs he would cut.

You see, cutting government is hard, and often unpopular. No surprise, then, that Boehner would rather play urban planner than embrace Wisconsin Republican Rep. Paul Ryan's "road map" for shrinking middle-class entitlements.

Faced with difficult choices, the alleged party of small government always retreats to the lazy politics of Kulturkampf. Hey, that guy's a "card-carrying member" of the ACLU! Ask me about my flag-burning amendment!

John Cornyn, R-Texas, head of GOP efforts to take back the Senate this fall, plans to make the Park51 "mosque" a major campaign issue. It's all too typical: Feed the rubes conservative identity politics, and, with luck, they'll be too distracted to notice you've grafted a Republican "K Street Project" atop the same old edifice of Big Government.

The establishment Right wants to play the Tea Party movement for suckers. It remains to be seen whether they'll play along.

Which brings us to Will Wilkinson, a fellow at the libertarian Cato Institute,who counters thusly:

I don't find this believable. This idiotic foofaraw could be a distraction only if the GOP rank-and-file actually cared more about the size of government than the cultural politics of American identity. But they don't. It's not even close. American conservatism is a movement consumed by protecting and asserting a certain fabricated conception of the traditional American way of life against imaginary enemies.

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I approve of what Gene's trying to do here rhetorically, but the fact is that complaining about Muslims and keeping holy the memory of 9/11 and Ground Zero — the legitimizing altar of aggressive American imperialism — is a direct manifestation of contemporary conservatism's essence. If it's not the twitchily bellicose identity politics of self-righteous middle-class white Americans, it's a distraction. Gene graciously lets the rank-and-file off the hook by blaming all this tiresome dim-witted chest-thumping on “the GOP establishment.” But I'm afraid in this case the establishment is just nervously along for the ride.

I lean toward Wilkinson's interpretation, based on the political and cognitive science research I've seen. Namely, modern conservatism, especially movement conservatism, is predominantly oriented with authoritarian values and the preservation of the existing social order, which is, let's face it, largely favorable to relatively well-to-do white folks (hence the undercurrent of racism in the Tea Party), who figure that since they made it, seemingly without government help, so can everybody else, and if they can't, that's too bad. The antipathy toward "big government" is, as Wilkinson alludes to, really just a manifestation of this broader perspective. So — and to boil several books on the subject down to a sentence — the movement conservatives' obsession with Park51 is part and parcel of their supposed opposition to small government. It all comes from the same cognitive source (really, read Lakoff's books; he explains it much better than I can).

But Healy is right, too, at least to some degree: For the hapless, anti-intellectual GOP establishment, which is attempting to grab power despite the vacuity of its ideas, the scary Muslims certainly presents a good rallying cry two months before the elections, and plays on the fear of and loathing toward Barack Obama that many conservatives possess, as well as the sense that “their” country is changing, and not to their benefit, which is why they want it back.

In both cases, I think there's an overestimation of the difference between the conservative elite and the rabble — the assumption being that the elites know better, but they're either using this issue to gain power (Healy) or being dragged along with the current (Wilkinson). Certainly, in the case of charlatans like Gingrich and opportunists like Pawlenty, they're right. My sense, though, is that the establishment has been so co-opted by the rabble, either because they're dependent on them to energize campaigns (Cornyn, Boehner), or because they've been thrust into the spotlight by these groups (Palin, DeMint, Rand Paul, Sharron Angle, etc.) and really believe this shit.

So maybe it's not an either/or. Maybe it's both.

Your thoughts?


betty
Posted 2010-08-18 21:11:37
Howard Dean is now AGAINST the mosque http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/08/18/dean  ...in addition to Harry Reid, most NY liberals, and the 9/11 families.

winger
Posted 2010-08-18 21:17:21
Mosque controversy gets even crazier:  Michael Bloomberg accuses Nancy Pelosi of being Un-American! "Is Nancy Pelosi Un-American? Mayor Michael Bloomberg's bombshell accusation against the House speaker"

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703649004575437541772521952.html?mod=asia_opinion

winger
Posted 2010-08-18 21:26:41
MICHAEL BLOOMBERG ACCUSES NANCY PELOSI OF BEING UN-AMERICAN  The Associated Press reported last month:  "New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg says it would be un-American to investigate a mosque that is planned for construction near where the World Trade Center once stood." The Washington Post's reporter Greg Sargent swung into action and obtained  these comments from Nancy Pelosi's office: "I support the statement made by the Interfaith Alliance that 'We agree with the ADL that there is a need for transparency about who is funding the effort to build this Islamic center. At the same time, we should also ask who is funding the attacks against the construction of the center.' . . ."   Therefore, since Nancy Pelosi wants transparency about the mosque funding, but Michael Bloomberg says it would be un-American to investigate the mosque, Bloomberg is accusing Pelosi of being un-American!!!!!

bill
Posted 2010-08-18 21:27:39
MICHAEL BLOOMBERG ACCUSES NANCY PELOSI OF BEING UN-AMERICAN The Associated Press reported last month: “New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg says it would be un-American to investigate a mosque that is planned for construction near where the World Trade Center once stood.” The Washington Post's reporter Greg Sargent swung into action and obtained these comments from Nancy Pelosi's office: “I support the statement made by the Interfaith Alliance that ‘We agree with the ADL that there is a need for transparency about who is funding the effort to build this Islamic center. At the same time, we should also ask who is funding the attacks against the construction of the center.' . . .” Therefore, since Nancy Pelosi wants transparency about the mosque funding, but Michael Bloomberg says it would be un-American to investigate the mosque, Bloomberg is accusing Pelosi of being un-American!!!!!

dd
Posted 2010-08-18 22:31:03
Thanks to the upcoming World Basketball Festival, we now get a “USA” Air Jordan 2010 Team. It seems as if more people like the Air Jordan 2010 Team than the original Air Jordan 2010 because of the windowless side panels. I'm not one of those people who likes the team better; I think the original 

Nike Shoes 2010 Shoes looks much better.Since this jordan Shoes Team is made for the USA team, the colorway should be clear. White can be seen on the side panels, toe, shoe laces, tongue, part of the midsole and the entire outsole. Navy blue covers the toe, heel, inner lining and above the midsole. Red accents appear on the tongue, toe, heel, lace panels and the midsole. The sneaker is constructed of perforated white leather with larger perforations placed on the side panels.

schmidt
Posted 2010-08-18 22:51:37
"...modern conservatism, especially movement conservatism, is predominantly oriented with authoritarian values and the preservation of the existing social order, which is, let's face it, largely favorable to relatively well-to-do white folks (hence the undercurrent of racism in the Tea Party), who figure that since they made it, seemingly without government help, so can everybody else, and if they can't, that's too bad."  Sort of, not really.  The GOP is a coalition of different interests like the democratic party.  Generally, the GOP is dominated by the cultural conservatives, fiscal conservatives, and national security conservatives...depending on the times, the emphasis may be more significant in one area relative to the others.

Lucy
Posted 2010-08-19 09:17:01
Billman - if it is such a faux controversy, why is the former DNC chairman, Howard Dean, and Senate Majority Leader, Harry Reid, against the ground zero mosque?

John
Posted 2010-08-19 11:21:43
People believe all kinds of horseshit, apparently.



http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2010/08/19/obama_muslim_poll

kirby
Posted 2010-08-19 20:56:12
John – so you're saying Howard Dean and Harry Reid are horse s h i t believers? That's very mean-spirited and insensitive.

brenda
Posted 2010-08-19 22:16:09
STOP THE MOSQUE!  http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=mjGJPPRD3u0&vq=medium

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Posted 2010-08-24 15:07:27
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POSTED: Tuesday, August 17, 2010, 5:33 PM
Filed Under: Nation | News | Rock Bottom
Courtesy of the Village Voice

For a country (ostensibly) built upon religious tolerance and freedom, the hullabaloo surrounding the construction of a community center with an Islamic prayer space in a long-vacant building that once housed a Burlington Coat Factory several blocks from where the World Trade Center towers stood — which, in lower Manhattan, is basically is a world away — one of those things that makes you want to just throw your hands in the air and say — as my late, wonderfully curmudgeonly grandfather would — “People are no damn good.”

Goddammit, aren't we better than this? Don't we understand that the politicians championing this non-issue are, in fact, preying on our fears, ignorances and bigotries?

That this thing has gained currency, that race-baiting (yet supposedly mainstream) politicians like Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin have been allowed to beat their chest and rile up the reasonless passions of their bases with lies and fact-less insinuations, that a president's intonation that the First Amendment is a cherished American tradition became a political liability (at least among the pundit class), that the fact that the blatant religious bigotry plays right into our enemy's hands and undermines what the values that make us better than them has been all but ignored — I'm beginning to wonder, is this the sacking of our Rome?

Probably not. In all likelihood, this thing will get built and the rabble will refocus its attention on American Idol or whatever until the next Fox News trumpeted faux-scandal emerges. But still: aren't we better than this?

Anyway. I would like to direct your attention to The Village Voice's post on why, really, you shouldn't give a shit about the so-called Cordoba House.

What's more offensive: Having a....

  • "Ground Zero Burger King."
  • Memorial that's never happened because of hyper-capitalist conflicts.
  • Bunch of tacky souvenir tables.
  • Bunch of tacky souvenir tables that profit off of cheap, China-made 9-11 memorabilia.
  • Bunch of tacky souvenir tables that profit off of cheap, China-made 9-11 memorabilia when they're not selling fake Rolexes to the same Americans coming to New York, buying from them, going home, and telling New Yorkers where to put our Mosques.

or an Islamic Cultural Center with a 9/11 Memorial (more than what's actually been put to paper for an official 9/11 Memorial) two and a half blocks away?

Reminder: Muslims were victims of 9/11, too. Sorry, but it's true. And one was an NYPD cadet.

Maybe we'll care what you have to say when you stop bothering us for directions in the subway on how to get to Ground Zero so you can go there and buy some dumb, tacky knickknack you can take home and give to friends to let them know that you spent money on a shake-a-snow where a few thousand people died. Maybe then. But probably not. Shut up, go away, and also, stop lying, or at least tell your politicians to stop lying. It might help you recognize the truth, which is that you're wrong, and you're attacking vital American freedoms by going against this Mosque. The truth is that you're terrorists in you're own right. You are striking against America by going against this mosque. You are, in effect, almost as bad as the ones who killed people on 9/11. Okay, not quite, not really, but kind of, because you're fighting against what 9/11 victims died for: religious freedom, which terrorists don't have and don't want anyone else to have.

But now you have a map to see how wrong you are, okay? Now: Fuck you. Fuck you and shut up, you assholes. Shut up and leave New York alone.

Also, this clip is worth 12 minutes of your life. (For the record, I'm not the biggest fan of Olbermann or cable news in general — I don't have cable, actually — but it's worth a viewing because, well, he's right.)

It's not sad to watch right-wingers try to score points off this thing: that's what they do, it's expected. It's sad that hate and fear have become so ingrained our our politics.

Aren't we better than this?

UPDATED: Daily Show goodness:

The Daily Show With Jon Stewart Mon - Thurs 11p / 10c
Mosque-Erade
www.thedailyshow.com
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William
Posted 2010-08-17 21:07:40
When Harry Reid and most New York liberals oppose the GROUND ZERO MOSQUE, you know it's more unpopular than universal health care and death panels.  If the ground zero mosque gets built by the Imam that thinks Osama was made in the USA and 9/11 was America's fault, with the secret muslim money, I hope that guy from Fox News Red Eye gets investors to build that gay bar for gay muslim men next door!   http://www.mediaite.com/tv/greg-gutfeld-outlines-his-islamic-gay-bar-plans-on-last-nights-red-eye/

Ken
Posted 2010-08-17 22:20:08
"...because you're fighting against what 9/11 victims died for: religious freedom, which terrorists don't have and don't want anyone else to have."  No one is arguing that we should take away the freedom of religion, and no one is arguing that they don't have the right to build the mosque there...therefore the thesis of the Village Voice article is completely flawed.  Should a sex offender rehab center be built next to or even near a day care or preschool?  Are we being insensitive, intolerant and bigoted by saying we don't sex offenders in the vicinity of preschoolers?  Are we fighting against the personal freedoms of the sex offenders by not allowing them to be near children?

patty
Posted 2010-08-17 22:04:00
I would like to know where Code Pink and the National Organization for Women are on the mosque.  After all, the Imam that will be running the mosque wants America to be sharia compliant --- which means women get stoned for adultery, they can't drive cars, and they get to be beaten senseless and abused by their husbands.

John
Posted 2010-08-18 08:54:09
"Ground Zero Mosque". "Death Panels".



You ask "aren't we better than this?"



In this era of sound byte politics and cable news analogies that make absolutely no sense at all (sex offenders and preschools??? Really???) sadly, we are not.

winger
Posted 2010-08-18 13:33:41
Rush Limbaugh, the leader of the Republican Party, who is now calling the Ground Zero Mosque the "Hamasque" (as in a mosque sponsored by Hamas), brings up a great point about the Dubai Ports deal a few years back. Rush claims he supported the Dubai Ports deal while Chuck Schumer and Hillary Clinton were against it.  If it is OK to build the mosque at ground zero, why not re-open the ports deal and allow Dubai to buy some ports?  It makes a lot of sense.

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Posted 2010-08-18 14:32:24
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