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POSTED: Friday, July 23, 2010, 8:41 PM
Filed Under: News | Philadelphia Police

On the Saturday before last (the date of the canceled Greek Weekend) Philadelphia police closed down South Street when, they say, an influx of visitors (especially teenagers) overwhelmed the street.

The Inquirer reported on Monday that South Street business owners by and large thought the cops had done a good job – although the article dealt more with police on South Street in general than with the particulars of that night.

Since then, I've gotten a few tips from people saying otherwise.

Anthony K, who works at a South Street bar, told me this story of the Friday night prior to the street shutdown:

[Police] were banging on cars, pulling people out of cars. . . . There were taxis and stuff still coming down South Street and cops were banging on the hoods of cars . . .

[The police] are normally pretty chill. It's like they had brought in the infantry, so to speak. It might have been a little busier than usual, because it was a Friday, but it just seemed like a typical weekend on South Street – certainly nothing out of the ordinary.

It was a bit after last call, it was maybe 2:20, I was still stacking up chair, I happen to see some kid fly the entire length of the French doors, just from one end to the other. I went up to the window and I saw some kid – I didn't see how escalated, but some kid just got beat up by four or five cops, he was flailing in self-defense. . . .

They literally got him between two cars and were beating on the kids – the kid wasn't even fighting, he was just flailing his arms, with five guys beating on him – then the one dude just pulled it off his belt and zapped him . . .I've never seen anything like that. They tased him, he lay there a bit, it was pretty disgusting to see – they let him lie there for a while, his girlfriend was screaming.

Susanna Martin wrote a letter to the Inquirer, and sent me the unabridged version:

I was walking down South Street a little after midnight Saturday night with a friend, and there were a lot of young people of African descent around, as usual on South St. on a Saturday night. In Monday's article, "Crowds put at 20,000 force police to close parts of South Street," a police spokesperson says that the only problems were minor, such as underage drinking and "disorderly conduct," which can apply to almost anything. The only violence I saw that night was the draconian police evacuation of South Street. They cleared the street and the sidewalks using a row of horses, including two cops on horses on each sidewalk, yelling at the young people to go up to Broad Street and shoving them along. Then at least 5 rows of cops on motorcycles cleared the street, which was extremely alarming.

I think I saw one kid get beat up by the cops and arrested, but it was unclear what was happening. It was down the block, and I was trying to get away from the cops on horses. Police on foot were chasing individual young people with nightsticks if they tried to walk down a side street away from South Street where they were being corralled. I yelled that the young people weren't doing anything wrong. I think because I'm a white woman in my late 30s, I was not arrested for yelling at the police. Everyone else was just trying to get away, very calmly I thought, as they were being chased very rudely down the public sidewalks and herded onto Broad Street.

Philebrity had an interesting take on the whole thing, too:

What kind of crazy temperature is the City running these days that this kind of buildup and conflict occurs when nothing is happening at all? And then that, of course, threw us back to something we were saying during the whole flash mob craze: Could so much of this be happening because these kids feel like Center City is somehow not for them, and that the only way they believe they can experience it is like this, en masse in a borderline riot state? And when did it become the police's job to scrub Center City of black youth on the weekends? We know they're there to protect and serve, of course, but on the news the next night, when we saw the SEPTA busses that had been rolled in to take all of these kids back home, we got a very unpleasant feeling indeed.


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Larry
Posted 2010-07-26 11:59:08
Good points, but Philebrity's been racism-bating lately for controversy. "And when did it become the police's job to scrub Center City of black youth on the weekends?" Seriously? Really? 



I do agree with you to a point, though, it seems to be more about fear than anything else. Then again, 20,000 teenagers in a small space during summer is never really a good idea, but neither is having a massive police presence to act as a spark for a fire.



Here's my 2-cents on the thing:



http://markskull.blogspot.com/2010/07/flash-mobs-violence-and-media-so-really.html



I actually happened to be out there with a pal of mine that night and we got caught-up in the middle of everything. The cops were pushing everyone out, and we were annoyed, but wound up just walking up 4th Street instead towards Market. Simple.

P.R
Posted 2010-07-26 15:00:53
The South Street police patrol are not a pleasant site nor are they pleasant servants.  I go to Johnnie Rockets with my teenage daughters and their friends for burgers on the weekend and there are two white officers in particular that are very agitated and are either on speed or had to much coffee. You know who they are and you can find them between 3rd & 4th and South  They actually pick with the young men.



I am over 50 and was park at 3rd and South on a side street waiting for my daughters and her friends to return from the pizza shop.  I was parked in a no park zone with my emergency lights on.  The little agitated officer approach my car and say "I told you once before to move and I'm not going to tell you again"  I never seen this man before and was never told any thing, I try to explain, but he insisted I move now, with a curt tone. I had to drive around the neighborhood 2x. He could have allow me a few minutes he had the authority.  The South Street officers are a scary group of men who are mean, disrespectful, emotional disturb and rude. 



Our Philadelphia finest need to go back to school for crowd control and take some lessons from the New York Police department.  New York police officers can show them how to handle a teenage crowd with dignity and respect.  And in return they and their badge is respected.

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POSTED: Tuesday, July 6, 2010, 10:38 PM
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For some reason, The Clog just digested something today that we've probably looked at a million times before — Police Commissioner Charles Ramsey's "blog" on the Philadelphia Police Department's website. As you can see, it has died the silent death of a million blogs before it, having exactly zero posts. Now sure, if Ramsey did use it, it would probably just be for press releases and the like. But imagine if it wasn't: Imagine if it were an exceptionally candid blog about his actual thoughts (the majority of which are probably just complaints about other cops), or everyday minutiae, like his celebrity lookalike and the salmon he cooked for dinner last night. How great would that be?

But alas, Ramsey is not with the times.

Or … is he? Is Twitter's phillytopcop the real deal?


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POSTED: Friday, March 26, 2010, 7:36 PM
Filed Under: Media | News | Philadelphia Police
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Yes, Philly finally made the front page of the New York Times – did we even get that for Phillies' WFCship? – and it's for ... flash mobs.

Ah, well.

The Times covered this as a national story, using Philly's recent incidents as an example of the way the flash mob has mutated from its pillow-fighting, silent iPod dance party origins.

The article was pretty bland, consisting largely of canned quotes from various public officials and youth advocates: the former blaming kids and parents; the latter blaming the public officials.

But there was, I think, a buried lead:

The flash mobs have raised questions about race and class.

Most of the teenagers who have taken part in them are black and from poor neighborhoods. Most of the areas hit have been predominantly white business districts.

It's true: and it's a point the mainstream has stayed away from so far – with the exception of the Daily News' Stu Bykofsky, who brought up the topic in his column yesterday.

"Flash mobs" was the topic on "Tell Me More," NPR's newest attempt at having a non-white-people-focused show (I think their word is "multi-cultural," but it totally replaced "News and Notes"), and it was introduced with a tag line something like "Some see racism in the response" to the flash mobs.

I think that race – and class, and systemic poverty and the various Big Issues that plague our city –  do matter in this discussion.

A particularly uncomfortable experience is viewing Philly.com's online gallery of the South Street incident, which juxtaposes scenes of bedlam – full of black faces – with scenes of white business owners and one (white) bruised worker.

I'm posting this in the hope (remote it may be) that I don't inadvertently invite a slew of racist comments. A discussion about these incidents is immature if we don't admit that race and class figure in somewhere. But, obviously, it's a starting point - not a destination.

I see two lines of predictable response shaping up.

There's the hard-line answer, as expressed by Mayor Nutter and Police Chief Ramsey, which goes like this: This isn't about race, class, opportunity, government, – it's about bad parenting. And if you can't keep 'em home, we'll lock 'em up:

Said Nutter to the NYT: "There is no racial component to stupid behavior, and parents should not be looking to the government to provide entertainment for their children."

Said Ramsey at a press conference: "It's not the government's responsibility to raise your child. It's your responsibility. When we get involved as police, it's too late for the tears."

It strikes me as wishfully simplistic: all bark and no bite. If there's one thing the city can't enforce, it's good parenting. Nutter and Ramsey can wipe their hands of this all they want – but they'll still have to answer to residents after the next incident. And unless something drastic happens, there will be another incident.

Which brings me to the second line of response: liberal denial.

This line of rhetoric emphasizes that these are just teenagers trying to have a good time, that the response has been overblown and the allegations of violence exaggerated.You want to point fingers? Point them at reduced library and pool hours, insufficient after-school programs, cuts in anti-violence programs.

I don't buy that, either. First of all, these are teenagers - not little kids. They don't want to go to a library, they want to party and be obnoxious (like a lot of us did and were). That's fine – it's the violence that changes everything.

Because, despite what I hear from a surprising number of progressive-types, these incidents have been violent – disturbingly, sickeningly violent. Last May, a 54-year-old man was pulled from his bicycle and critically beaten; a cab driver was assaulted. On Market Street a month ago, youths knocked over pedestrians. At least a few people seem to have been beaten in last weekend's incident on South Street. Sorry: but victims come first.

I don't think this is just about a lack of things do to: there's something deeper and much scarier at work here. I think that you have to connect these incidents to the attack at South Philadelphia High – and to Greek Picnic, and to a disturbing number of cases of kids committing violence en masse.

Frankly, I suspect something terrible is building. I don't like to say it. But, on the eve of another hot Philadelphia summer – we'd better be ready for it.

How? I dunno. But here's my two cents:

Have a couple police dedicated to monitoring social networking sites to look out for this stuff.

  • Do what we do for adult white drunk weekend people: We know where they gather, and we post a ton of cops. Philly teens gather at predictable locations, if not at predictable times, right? How hard can it be?
  • Consider closing off South Street and 40th street for a few blocks on weekends. You can hardly get through anyway, there's no parking, and the congestion of cars only makes it harder for cops to keep track of anything (especially bike cops, who are pretty effective on South Street).
  • Give a serious and un-cowardly look at City Controller Alan Butkovitz' suggestion to curb students' use of city-issued SEPTA trans-passes. His suggestions are intelligent, reasonable, and – unlike yelling at parents or espousing social theories – immediately practical.
  • Enlist SEPTA workers (insanely busy as we all know they are not giving change) to alert police to high numbers of teens getting on the system.
  • Consider posting city-employed non-police security officers (a la University City) at a few corners along South Street to alert cops to developing problems. If the city won't pay, maybe South Street businesses can chip in enough to hire a couple of guards.

Enough: What do you think?


Jay Gaultieri
Posted 2010-04-08 23:20:56
Race is indeed the giant elephant in the room that everyone wants to dance around. But there's a reason for that: Anyone who brings it up will be called a racist and then crucified by the apologists for the rioters. These are kids for whom their parents were never there, were constantly told that people who did well in school or waited there turn in line or were nice to others were suckers, that any interests outside of jewelry and baggy pants was gay, and that it was okay to assault whoever you wanted because you would never be disciplined. And I will be called a racist even though what I just said was the truth.

Theo
Posted 2010-03-28 11:32:26
The businesses on South Street have been suffering for years, and many have just wholesale shut down already. I know this seems like a minor point to make when we're worried about violence, but closing off whole city blocks during summer, when those companies make their annual sales goals, is going to crush even more small businesses. There has to be a way to get at something systemic without punishing the neighborhood being affected even more.
Can we look at the culture of violence in public schools, since as a city, we obviously can't enforce better parenting? What if we instituted a public service requirement for graduation, to counterbalance some sense of aimlessness? (Would that miss all the kids who skip school anyway?) What if we had decent scared-straight speakers in high school, who connected with students on racial/class grounds and were eloquent enough to make casual violence seem like a bad choice? Aren't there smaller, more cost-effective steps to avert a serious crisis? 
I agree that more cops in obvious places seem like a good idea, I just think these kids need to actually learn some other priorities or they will be a problem for themselves and the city as they grow into adulthood. School is, after all, where you can learn worthwhile things.

mary
Posted 2010-03-27 13:09:59
the city....

The core problem is violence, plain and simple. Whether perpetrated by bored teens, or by drunken adults, it needs to be dealt with summarily.

mary
Posted 2010-03-27 13:07:17
Over-react?  Do you think the girl who got her teeth knocked out was over-reacting? How about the people who were trampled, as these bored young people ran down South?

This isn't merely a bunch of youths, enjoying the freshness of Spring.

While I'm glad you felt, at 5th & Bainbridge, that everything was hunky-dory, that simply isn't the case in other parts of

Allitia
Posted 2010-03-27 12:16:02
Let's not over-react.  There is a central phenomenon of bored jerky kids annoying adults, and then there is an epi-phenomenon of thugs who use the gatherings for cover (as they do with Hip Hop festivals and Greek Picnics, ruining it for everyone). We are SO not about to descend into a maelstrom of race riots or class conflict--I just don't see that and I didn't see that from my home at 5th and Bainbridge as streams of young people walked around on the first nice day of spring.  What I do see is an unnerving anachronism in media coverage--there were upwards of 2000 kids on South Street, most of whom did nothing except tweet and gather for attention.  I think the appropriate analogy is the white Irish who behave no better during Mummers parades--there is a core group of revelers and a trailing tail of nasty drunken violent thugs. And yet the media never report on an angry, disenfranchised Irish mob threatening to erupt into full-scale class war and destroy the fabric of civilized life in Philadelphia.  So why do it because these kids are black? Because it sends an antebellum frisson up white journalists' spines to see an all-black gathering?  I would suggest that we focus on the components of the problem instead of forcing the event into a historical trope that is hardly relevant (i.e., the angry black mob).  There is the core problem of bored teenagers disrupting normal business and scaring off paying visitors.  This is a problem we already contend with on South Street every summer weekend night.  Then there is the epi-phenomenon of nasty violent thugs.  This is also a problem we contend with all year round in all parts of the city, or anywhere else there is human habitation frankly.  If the police are going to make arrests during these events, the most effective arrests would be these people--not the random jerky teenager.  And as for the rest of us, let's take a deep breath and give these tired old Heart-of-Darkness tropes a rest.

Defend
Posted 2010-03-27 02:51:22
Let's see, we have a president telling a huge portion of the country to "bring it on."

Here's a small sampling of the hate speech by our illustrious president toward the citizens in this country:

Obama has “taunted” and disrespected Americans with his words “bring it on,” “go for it,” that “typical white people,” “shouting about the end of the world,” “ get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy toward people who aren't like them,” “like the special Olympics” America has “this enormous, tragic history,” “America is no longer what it once was."

I will agree that America is not what it once was.  Never before has a president shown such disrespect - and we have a v.p. that's throwing the f' bomb around...with practically no one remarking about it.

What kind of examples are these?  The Democratic party has become a corrupt bunch of thugs...and are inciting our entire country - and infuriating us - with their ineptitude.  

Where can these kids find work?  What hope do they have for the future?  Their moms may work - or use crack - either way, they have a lack of supervision and modeling.

Republicans will never give up.  I love them for that.  They have a strong belief that every American can have a future.  Not a future that is mortgaged to the unborn.  But a stable, secure future founded in a country that has some stability.

America can offer nothing right now.  This health care fiasco was a retarded attempt to address the Medicare/Medicaid problem.  Piling trillions of dollars in this fiasco of a bill is no answer - nor is immigration reform.

Your attorney general is attempting to address the over-reaching power grab by the present administration.  States have the rights to checks and balances - they do it to protect our individual rights.

In light of this - I ask that you call Governor and tell him that he has had his day in the sun...to accept that he is old and dying...and to shut his mouth and to fulfill the remainder of his term without interference or his own political gain.

Call your Attorney General and offer full support.

This is your American civic duty.  Provide a model of responsibility, faith, and action to these kids.  That's what they need.  Bold action by ethical people.  That's who we are.

vivi
Posted 2010-03-27 00:02:25
Wow. I grew up on the Lower East Side when the drug trade got entrenched and it was very scary, but if you avoided where the gangs congregated you had a chance. There were safe blocks and unsafe blocks.  I can't handle the possibility that a mob can just come out of nowhere and beat people up. I'm SO not visiting Philadelphia.

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harry
Posted 2010-03-26 20:37:58
You don't suppose that there is some mass mind control going on behind the scenes? If so by whom and for what objective.Could it be the New World Order stir up chaos so as to make martial law and a dictatorship look 
like a good idea.stay tuned.

ChrisB
Posted 2010-03-26 15:31:42
3rd idea make sense...stop subsidizing their ability to congregate...I don't know much about how the student passes work, but seems like something they could roll out during next school-year...maybe having fewer teens as a human shield/smokescreen would reduce the likelihood of violent individuals acting up.

Ed
Posted 2010-03-26 15:46:55
The thing that sticks out for me is the fact the teenage crowd is so uniformly African American. My impression of the last decade or so has been that racial divides were being bridged, especially among the young. The fact that this crowd, supposedly organized through twitter and facebook and thus in public, is so uniform freaks me out. Did no white or asian teenagers get the tweets? Or did they get them and not respond? 

It's depressing to think that this generation is just as segregated as previous ones, despite the fact that digital communications hold the promise of enabling post-racial society.

As for solutions, I think closing South street to vehicles is a great idea. Especially since I live there and the noise from car stereos drives me nuts. I also suggest stepping up enforcement of nuisance crimes--loud radios, littering, etc. 

I think the kids have the right to assemble, they just need to be policed better to keep the disturbance to a minimum.

Cleanup Philly
Posted 2010-03-26 16:43:28
Limiting Transpasses to time out at 4pm is a idea whose time has come. Why hasn't the mayor put this in place? It's not my job as taxpayer to subsidize unsupervised teens after school going all over the city. They need to be close to home where people who know them will watch them.

Cleanup Philly
Posted 2010-03-26 16:46:16
There are more flash mobs being called for this weekend according to reports made earlier this week on WPVI's website. NYC did zero tolerance, and that city now has their lowest murder rate in their recorded history. Zero tolerance/broken window theory works. Our pols have to stop pandering to the cheap votes of parents who don't want to be part of their kids' lives. Kids committing crimes need to be shunted into the system where they can get the help they need.

j davies
Posted 2010-04-16 21:06:45
Random violence is the main reason I always carry when I have to go into Philly. It's too bad these savages didn't run into someone who was willing to defend themselves. Over reaction?? How stupid can you get. There was a story in the paper about the young woman who was a victim of these ghetto sissies. She was set on by several of these animals and sustained severe injuries. The police need to do whatever is necessary to crush these riots including using deadly force!

BarryG
Posted 2010-03-29 10:42:35
The Inky did tackle the race issue in the Sunday issue.  Surprisingly blunt piece:
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/homepage/89343497.html

@Allitia, "Antibellum frisson," that is amazing.  Though still a liberal apology; albeit a well written one.
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POSTED: Wednesday, March 17, 2010, 6:23 PM
Filed Under: Philadelphia Police | Protest
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As everyone in Old City revels in St. Patty's Day-douche mode (I readily admit I'm just jealous), about 30 protesters in Center City are speaking out against police brutality in Philly. They're set up at Broad and Locust streets, with the majority of folks being from the Uhuru Movement and Philadelphia Freedom Riders.

Check back later for video and photos — we've got startern Josh Middleton (of Queer Bait fame) on the scene.

RELATED: Who polices the Philadelphia police? They do. That's the problem.

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POSTED: Tuesday, February 23, 2010, 5:09 PM

Friend of the Clog Brian James Kirk is running an interesting series over on ex-Inky columnist Tom Ferrick's Metropolis Web site this week, looking at the widespread use of surveillance video cameras by Philadelphia police. Check out part one here, and part two here. Part three, Brian tells me, should be up later today.

In any event, here's a sample:

When it comes to fighting crime, Philadelphia is undergoing a video revolution. Within a few short years, the city is likely to be blanketed by a network of more than a thousand state-of-the-art, high resolution cameras, scanning high-crime areas, critical structures such as the Benjamin Franklin Bridge, SEPTA stops and inner city streets.

The sweeping program had a modest beginning. In 2007, Mayor John Street and the Philadelphia Police Department announced a $10 million initiative to install 250 surveillance cameras around the city. These are high resolution Unisys digital video cameras that, if perched on a street light, can pan, tilt and zoom into details, such as a person's face or a license plate number, from a full city block away.

Today, 117 of the planned 250 cameras are in operation, perched above streets with their tell-tale blue lights blinking. Another 76 are covered by plastic bags awaiting network configuration.

But this is only the beginning. The number of cameras on the network is expected to expand exponentially in the near future. City officials are working on ways to link their Police Department operation with surveillance cameras used by such parties as SEPTA, local universities and private businesses to create a super-network of public space surveillance that can feed images back to the video monitoring room at Police Headquarters at Eighth and Race Sts.

These cameras, Brian writes, allow cops to zoom in on things like faces and license plates from up to a block away. Go take a read, it's worth a few minutes of your time. While you're at it, bear in mind that while the cops love taking pictures of you, they may well arrest you for reciprocating.


Larry
Posted 2010-02-24 12:18:00
The sad part is they don't act as a good deterrent from crime, nor does it work too well in terms of getting criminals in some studies I've seen of the camera systems in England. It's almost like a giant expensive security blanket to some degree.

I'd rather just have more well-trained officers on street.
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POSTED: Thursday, December 3, 2009, 9:36 PM
Filed Under: Philadelphia Police

In this week's paper, we wrote about an apparently unlawful arrest outside Pat's Steaks on early Sunday morning, at around 3:25 a.m. The arrestee was handcuffed for photographing possible police misconduct on his phone — which, in Philadelphia, is a crime — and stuffed into the back of a patrol car.

Unfortunately, the PPD seems to have no record of the incident (shocking!) and doesn't have the man's name. So we appeal to you, Clog readers: If you know the man who was arrested —or better yet, if you are that guy — email Andrew Thompson at andrew.thompson@citypaper.net. We've got a good track record using the Clog to find those roughed up by Philly cops: That's how we found Michael Foley, the guy who got the fucking shit beaten out of him outside our office the day of the Phillies parade. And we'd like to hit you up again.

Memories are fuzzy, but the man had very short black hair, what seemed to be a very slightly darker complexion (less African American and more Middle Eastern or South Asian), and an iPhone in a black case. I'm fuzzy on these specifics — what do you think brought me to Pat's at 3:30? — but if you or the person you suspect is our guy doesn't fit these specifics, shoot us an email anyway. I'd hate to not find him because he had a Blackberry and not an iPhone.

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POSTED: Thursday, November 19, 2009, 8:53 PM

Don't know if you saw this little thingamajigger on Phawker, (which itself links to this thing from Washington City Paper), but our Police Commissioner may have a truthiness problem from his days down in DC. From the WashCP:

An affidavit filed today in U.S. District Court raises questions as to whether former D.C. Police Chief Charles H. Ramsey may have committed perjury in his sworn testimony about the Pershing Park fiasco. Ramsey had repeatedly stated in depositions that he had not ordered the mass arrest of approximately 400 people during the Sept. 27, 2002, World Bank/IMF protests.

Yet the affidavit, by Det. Paul Hustler, a 22-year D.C. Police veteran, maintains that Ramsey indeed ordered the arrests.

Hustler's affidavit, taken Nov. 16, [PDF] is just the latest shock in a pair of Pershing Park class-action civil suits in U.S. District Court. In recent months, the case has been dogged by allegations of massive discovery violations. Judge Emmet Sullivan has called for an outside investigation into how basic evidence in the cases had gone missing.

We took a quick read through Hustler‘s testimony, and indeed, if he’s telling the truth, it might not bode well for Chief Ramsey. So, being the judicious reporters that we are, we (technically, an intern) placed a call to Ramsey’s public affairs office, to ask if he had any thoughts on Hustler’s statement. Here's what the lady who answered the phone told us, in whole:

"We're not willing to comment, and neither is he!” Click.

So, um, there you go.


Woodward
Posted 2009-11-19 18:39:20
great reporting
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